October 13, 2006

Why aren't you upgrading Delphi? The debate is hot.

With almost 1,150 messages in a single thread of the non-tech newsgroup, hundreds of comments to several blog posts, alternative roadmaps flourishing, the debate is quite hot (and for good reasons).

Let me set a couple of things straight first.

  1. Many Delphi programmers love the tools the use and really want it better. With few exceptions they want DevCo to succeeed. That's why the debate is hot. You hardly see the same in other communities.
  2. DevCo is not shy of asking as Borland used to be. This entire debate was spurred by Delphi product manager. I keep seeing messages of appreciations to all the various alternative roadmaps. Nick and John and others are doing a great job, despite some out-of-tone messages. People are really trying to help, as as I said above, with rare exceptions.

Now, let's look at the debate. The non-tech thread that started all this in this very moment has 1,147 messages, and is still growing. The original blog post by Nick, with a huge number of comments, has been removed, but the replacement post has a good feedback as well. My own post ont he subject has 23 comments. Other related threads in non-tech include 121 posts in There is no market for a Delphi for .NET compiler, 217 in The alternative Delphi roadmap to success, 67 in Tech directions for Delphi?, 720 in I really hate .NET especially inside Delphi... and many other shorter threads.

I really think this is impressive. I don't agree with any alternative proposals (I have my reservations also on the Kissel plan), but I think it is important to that DevCo for encouraing the debate (yes, it might have gone a little out of control...) and the community for the (mostly) positive mood. I don't think this will harm Delphi anyway. I don't think Nick is in a nice position... but if the DevCo deal is closed off soon enough and the company can invest enough money in the product to work on multiple lines (Win32, .Net, Kylix) while keeping the product unique and open... Delphi will keep having a relevant role for quite some time in the future. OK, I'm dreaming, again.





 

4 Comments

Why aren't you upgrading Delphi? The debate is hot. 

I would like to see what the percentages would be if 
Kylix was included in the Free Turbos Download?  It 
would be interesting.
Comment by on October 13, 16:32

Why aren't you upgrading Delphi? The debate is hot. 

Kylix Explorer for free with the same specifications
as the other turbos:

1. Inability to incorporate 3rd party experts
2. No designtime support for 3rd party components
3. No extra 3rd party extras

Kylix Professional for under $500 as the other turbos
but with al the missing features in the Explorer
Edition enabled. :-)
Comment by Tom van der Vlugt [http://www.tomvandervlugt.tk] on October 14, 01:05

Why aren't you upgrading Delphi? The debate is hot. 

Marco, your "dreaming, again" post is simply excellent.

About Delphi Webtechnologies, you said that you
basically got all those technologies together. Would
you be elaborate on that? 

Comment by Arnold Angerer on October 14, 09:59

Why aren't you upgrading Delphi? The debate is hot. 

A TurboKylix is beyond range, I'm afraid. Currently 
Kylix has a lot of issues under the latest Linuxes, 
it won't be a great marketing move to release 
something that doesn't work out of the box. 
Comment by Kent Morwath on October 14, 18:20


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