September 21, 2006
Turbo Explorer License
In the talkback of my post on 10 Days of Turbos, Jolyon Smith (if this is the real name) pointed out that there is a disconnection between the term used by the Licence manager (Trial License -- No) and the License Agreement that refers to an Evaluation License and Named User License. Responding to this post, Nick Hodges (Delphi Product Manager at DevCo) clearly states that:
You can develop commercial applications with the Turbo Explorer editions. That's a fact.
To this, Marcel Popescu further replies with some doubts. However, if you read the License Agreement, it states that Evaluation Licenses are for a limited period of time, typically 30 days. Now, the Explorer Licenses are limited in time, but for a huge amount of time (10 Years!). Moveover, the License file Borland sends you for the Turbos, when displayed in the License Manager, clearly states that commercial use is possible:
Non-commercial use only --- No
Trial license --- false
Term type --- Fixed Date
Remaining days --- 36543
Although I'm not an expert in licensing issues, the way I read it is that: (i) by reading the license text and the license file information, the fact you are legally allowed to deploy commercial applications built with the Turbos seems clear, (ii) Borland in any case should fix the wording of the License to match more closely what the License Manager states.
Now I know all the "mister precise" out there will disagree with my stance, but I could not let the discussion in the thread remain open, so I tried my best!
11 Comments
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On what date did you register your copy of Turbo Explorer? I did it on 5th September and I am getting the 100 year 'time limit'.Comment by Tom van der Vlugt [http://www.tomvandervlugt.tk] on September 21, 16:50
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Turbo Explorer users are issued a Named User License. Read the license based on that. I agree that the wording in the License and the License Manager should match.Comment by Nick Hodges [http://blogs.borland.com/nickhodges] on September 21, 18:34
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36543 days = 100 years, not 10! It's more than anyone could use...Comment by François [] on September 21, 20:11
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Marco, 36543 days are 1 hundred years, not just 10!Comment by Sergio Pappalardo aka Silver Black [http://www.silvercybertech.com] on September 21, 20:29
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i installed turbo delphi 3 times already, 5 sept, 7 sept and two days ago, and each time the licence type was unlimitedComment by eduard on September 21, 21:39
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for the record, first thing after the setup completed was opening licence manager and import the reg736.txt key file. every time, the licence type was unlimited.Comment by eduard on September 22, 01:02
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Hey Marco I think the way that the DevCo divestiture is taking soooo long implies that Borland probably has more lawyers than developers. So it's not really surprising that the licence agreement makes sense only to lawyers! -- JeremyComment by Jeremy McGee on September 22, 09:51
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Not quite sure where the doubt over my name arises - it is the one I was given to me by my parents when I was born and I've never been shy about using it when posting into the Delphi newsgroups over many, many years, even though it is quite unique and therefore not one that could be used to hide behind very effectively. I'm grateful to Marco for appreciating the point behind the observation - namely the inconsistency and therefore the /potential/ for doubt. I find it interesting that /someone/ in Borland seemed to feel it appropriate, if not necessary, to do something about it despite simultaneously insisting that I was needlessly concerned. The two (the action and the assertion) seem somewhat at odds. But at least the potential for confusion is now greatly reduced. Now we just need to deal with Section 5 of the license. lolComment by Jolyon Smith on September 26, 04:21
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I installed mine today and i cant find a Serial Key what ever it is called.... Can anyone Help me???Comment by Bob on May 4, 19:58
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Hi, Bob! Well done! You forgot your licence file! it has name like reg736.txt I got one at CodeGear site. Look there, register there and you'll get your personal reg***.txt file through email.Comment by Anton Bannikov [] on September 11, 08:59
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Comment by eduard [] on September 21, 16:26