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September 21, 2006

Turbo Explorer License

In the talkback of a recent post, a reader raised a problem with the Turbo Explorer license...

In the talkback of my post on 10 Days of Turbos, Jolyon Smith (if this is the real name) pointed out that there is a disconnection between the term used by the Licence manager (Trial License -- No) and the License Agreement that refers to an Evaluation License and Named User License. Responding to this post, Nick Hodges (Delphi Product Manager at DevCo) clearly states that:

You can develop commercial applications with the Turbo Explorer editions. That's a fact.

To this, Marcel Popescu further replies with some doubts. However, if you read the License Agreement, it states that Evaluation Licenses are for a limited period of time, typically 30 days. Now, the Explorer Licenses are limited in time, but for a huge amount of time (10 Years!). Moveover, the License file Borland sends you for the Turbos, when displayed in the License Manager, clearly states that commercial use is possible:

Non-commercial use only --- No
Trial license --- false
Term type --- Fixed Date
Remaining days  --- 36543

Although I'm not an expert in licensing issues, the way I read it is that: (i) by reading the license text and the license file information, the fact you are legally allowed to deploy commercial applications built with the Turbos seems clear, (ii) Borland in any case should fix the wording of the License to match more closely what the License Manager states.

Now I know all the "mister precise" out there will disagree with my stance, but I could not let the discussion in the thread remain open, so I tried my best!





 

11 Comments

Turbo Explorer License 

my license:

 Product Details

Product title --- Delphi 2006 for Win32
Product sku  --- Explorer
Serial number  --- ****************
Platform  --- Windows
Non-commercial use only  --- No
Trial license  --- false
Term type  --- Unlimited

there is nothing unusual about it, a regular mail sent
key file
Comment by eduard [] on September 21, 16:26

Turbo Explorer License 

 On what date did you register your copy of Turbo 
Explorer? I did it on 5th September and I am getting 
the 100 year 'time limit'.
Comment by Tom van der Vlugt [http://www.tomvandervlugt.tk] on September 21, 16:50

Turbo Explorer License 

 Turbo Explorer users are issued a Named User 
License. Read the license based on that.

I agree that the wording in the License and the 
License Manager should match.
Comment by Nick Hodges [http://blogs.borland.com/nickhodges] on September 21, 18:34

Turbo Explorer License 

36543 days = 100 years, not 10!
It's more than anyone could use...
Comment by François [] on September 21, 20:11

Turbo Explorer License 

Marco, 36543 days are 1 hundred years, not just 10!
Comment by Sergio Pappalardo aka Silver Black [http://www.silvercybertech.com] on September 21, 20:29

Turbo Explorer License 

i installed turbo delphi 3 times already, 5 sept, 7
sept and two days ago, and each time the licence type
was unlimited
Comment by eduard on September 21, 21:39

Turbo Explorer License 

for the record, first thing after the setup completed
was opening licence manager and import the reg736.txt
key file. every time, the licence type was unlimited.
Comment by eduard on September 22, 01:02

Turbo Explorer License 

Hey Marco

I think the way that the DevCo divestiture is taking
soooo long implies that Borland probably has more
lawyers than developers. 

So it's not really surprising that the licence
agreement makes sense only to lawyers!

-- Jeremy
Comment by Jeremy McGee on September 22, 09:51

Turbo Explorer License 

 
Not quite sure where the doubt over my name arises - 
it is the one I was given to me by my parents when I 
was born and I've never been shy about using it when 
posting into the Delphi newsgroups over many, many 
years, even though it is quite unique and therefore 
not one that could be used to hide behind very 
effectively.

I'm grateful to Marco for appreciating the point 
behind the observation - namely the inconsistency 
and therefore the /potential/ for doubt.

I find it interesting that /someone/ in Borland 
seemed to feel it appropriate, if not necessary, to 
do something about it despite simultaneously 
insisting that I was needlessly concerned.

The two (the action and the assertion) seem somewhat 
at odds.  But at least the potential for confusion 
is now greatly reduced.

Now we just need to deal with Section 5 of the 
license.

lol

Comment by Jolyon Smith on September 26, 04:21

Turbo Explorer License 

 I installed mine today and i cant find a Serial Key
what ever it is called.... Can anyone Help me???
Comment by Bob on May 4, 19:58

Turbo Explorer License 

Hi, Bob!

Well done! You forgot your licence file!
it has name like reg736.txt

I got one at CodeGear site. Look there, register 
there and you'll get your personal reg***.txt file 
through email.
Comment by Anton Bannikov [] on September 11, 08:59


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