March 4, 2014
Embarcadero has announced a new plan for selling updates of Delphi and C++Builder. The idea is to make it easier (and cheaper) for early adopters and loyal users.
Last week, Embarcadero has announced a new plan for selling updates of Delphi and C++Builder. The idea is to make it easier (and cheaper) for early adopters and loyal users. In summary, the idea is that the new RAD License Recharge Plan allows you to continuall y recharge your RAD Studio, Delphi or C++Builder license with every major release at an affordable License Recharge fee for each release.
The plan is called "Recharge Plan" and the concept is quite simple. Given we are currently working on a schedule of 2 releases a year for RAD Studio, we are going to start offering a special update price only from the previous version of the same product. This will cost half of the regular update price. Actually, it will be just a little less than half of the regular update price, as we want this to be the less expensive upgrade model.
You can read the details and a FAQ at
www.embarcadero.com/products/rad-studio/recharge
.
These are some scenarios:
- If Delphi XE5 (Professional with or without the various packs, Enterprise, or above), when we will release XE6, you'll be able to upgrade your license to XE6 at a special price (less than half of the regular update price from, say, XE4). Later, as we release another version, you'll be able to keep upgrading at a similar low price.
- By upgrading twice in a year, you'll pay less than if you skip a version and buy a regular update. And you'll benefit form having always the latest release available. In other words, early adopters and loyal users now have a good deal.
- If you are still not on XE5, you can go ahead and buy it now. When the next version comes out, you'll be able to recharge your license. If you stay on an older version, you'll have to pay for a full upgrade.
One important element is this is not just a one time offer, but a long term plan for the future, that will depend on the number of releases of RAD Studio in a single year. With a more predictable plan, you'll be able better plan your investments, even without moving to the pre-paid maintenance program (which remains available, if you prefer that model).
With the fast moving landscape in mobile platforms, we need to keep release cycles shorter, and we are trying to adapt the sales model to better serve this new approach. Hope you like the idea and get ready to recharge your licenses.
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marcocantu @ 11:45AM | 24 Comments
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24 Comments
RAD Studio Recharge Program
This sounds interesting, but how is this different to
the maintenance that I currently pay for RAD Studio
Pro?
Comment by Paul Foster
[]
on March 4, 12:09
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Bravo! This is great, Marco!
Comment by Andrew on March 4, 12:30
RAD Studio Recharge Program
In what respect will this recharge program be
different than having a maintenance contract? Will
maintenance become a sort of pre-paid recharge?
Comment by Patrick vd Pieterman on March 4, 12:36
RAD Studio Recharge Program
This sounds fantastic. The biggest problem I have as an independent
person using Delphi and C++ Builder is the cost. An upgrade program
that allows regular updates at a cheaper cost is a Good Thing - and
thankyou!
I will buy XE6 when that comes out (because it's soon, isn't it?) and follow
on with this program.
Comment by David M
[http://itinerantdeveloper.blogspot.com]
on March 4, 12:36
RAD Studio Recharge Program
How multiple releases in 1y is a good thing? What about 3rd party
components, will they be ready on 1st day of new XE-x release? (I
don't care that it's not directly EMB thing).
Will IDEFixPack be ready :) without this IDE/Compiler is unusable.
New release, so probably new features/improvements === new bugs.
Will they be fixed in update/service pack or only in upgrade?
IMO this could work, only if EMB will make *public* (without NDA)
beta before release, fix *ALL* reported regression bugs, and then
make a release.
We have made an upgrade from D2009 to XE5, but only because of:
- FireDAC (if AnyDAC would exists, we probably would never made an
upgrade)
None of other features at
http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/whats-new are useful
for us (for migration from D2009).
Comment by Kibab on March 4, 13:32
RAD Studio Recharge Program
This sounds encouraging. I'm sure most Delphi developers
(including myself) want to be on the latest version. The
issue has been the pricing. Making it less attractive to
upgrade from one just one version before and more
meaningful to skip a version. Nice one.
Comment by Wilfred Oluoch
[http://www.ideaz.co.ke]
on March 4, 13:52
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Maintenance (or software assurance) is and will remain the cheapest
model, even compared to recharge. Recharge will be the cheaper way to
get updates to an existing license.
With maintenance you have to pay a year in advance (without really
knowing the coming features) and many companies prefer a plain
software license. Only a small fraction of our RAD Studio users is on
maintenance, which is a big reason for us to offer this alternative.
If you are currently on maintenance, keeping your maintenance active is
likely your best approach.
We are aware of the third party component vendors delay, we already
presented them detailed plans for the year, encouraging them to stay
up-to-date with our releases. It is ultimately their customers they are
going to listen to...
We know that multiple releases a year pose a challenge to many of our
customers and third party vendors. We understand that projects close to
completion generally stay on a stable version. But once you have a new
release you can evaluate if the advantages (features and problems we
have fixed) are worth the migration.
Making one release a year for a mobile tool will be very hard, given
underlying technologies change very fast.
-Marco
Comment by Marco Cantu
[http://www.marcocantu.com]
on March 4, 14:17
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Hi Marco!
Any news that you can give us in advance about the XE6
version release?
Regards
Comment by David on March 4, 15:07
RAD Studio Recharge Program
I don't understand why Embarcadero embraces complicated
licensing schemes. The model that just about every
successful company adopts is subscriptions.. simple
pricing that everyone can understand. I'm a Microsoft
reseller, and there's no company more complicated than
they are - hopefully, the new CEO will change that -
he's already talking about a free version of Windows.
wow. Get on the program with reasonably priced
subscriptions, simple, easy, affordable..time for
lunch.
Comment by John E on March 4, 17:34
RAD Studio Recharge Program
John E: It's not really that complicated, is it? Software Assurance basically
is a subscription, with a marketing name. If you have it, you get all
releases as they are released. You just need to renew your subscription
each year.
This new one just seems to be an alternative for those who want to pay
smaller incremental amounts, or to allow an upgrade once you know
what's in the new release, as opposed to buying a subscription ahead of
time.
Comment by David M on March 4, 18:58
RAD Studio Recharge Program
David - if you have to explain it, it's too
complicated. Adobe's subscription is simple, $49 per
month gets you everything. If you want just one app,
it's $19.95 per month. No worrying about skipping
versions, or calling it SA or whatever.. simple,
nothing left to explain. I have SA, but it only makes
sense for higher-end versions.. which brings us to why
so many versions? $49 per month for Architect - one
build, one version, access to everything Delphi.
Otherwise, they can keep paying countless dollars
explaining each version, arguing value of SA or not to
SA, or offering recharge, and explaining that too..LOL
Comment by John E on March 4, 21:55
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Hi Marco - Great step in the right direction. What is
also really needed is a free entry level version to
dramatically expand the user base by attracting first
generation developers who would later opt for the
higher SKU's. That could also resurrect the collapsed
Delphi book and related publications economy and flood
programming forums with Delphi related questions and buzz.
Comment by Navid on March 5, 00:56
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Well, i think it is better shortterm minor releases,
for bug fixing and improving stability than a full
release, also 3rd party vendors have a chance to offer
their new releases in time, you also know that some 3rd
party vendors offers their updates in a real
maintenance cycle, then a maintenace feed has a real
reason to be, otherwise is foolish.
I feel that embarcadero has lost his lighthouse.
However this recharge thing is a good sign for we, the
customers
Comment by Felipe Pina on March 5, 02:12
RAD Studio Recharge Program
I agree with the subscription thing. As an example, I
pay Microsoft $15US (I think might be less) for the use
of MS Office and can upgrade to the next version when
the next version comes out. Now, if you work that out,
its a bit dearer than buying it out right, however, and
heres the nice part, I get "5" licences !! which is
good, I need it on 5 diff, machines as it happens and I
am not going to buy 5 lics. so its means MS get $ from
me where the might not have, and I get a good deal.
Now, I am NOT suggesting that Embarcadero be that
generous of course, but it would mean the difference of
getting a good constant-ish revenue, and the posability
of more people signing up to use Delphi etc. Just my
2c worth :-)
Comment by Jeremy on March 5, 08:35
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Sounds interesting. It is a good thing to have more
options available, so people can choose which ever
suits them the best.
Comment by Dalija Prasnikar on March 5, 09:53
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Hi marco,
i'm glad embarcadero is changing it's pricing scheme
and release cycle.
I'm more concern with the release cycle, 2 release for
each year is a menace, there will be more problem with
the third party support.
Let's say this in plain and simple, you force us to
pay half price just to get an updated support on the
mobile application with new bugs and just a little new
version.
You need to force your team just to compile and test a
new version that support the new mobile os. That need
a lot of work to debug and make everything work as
good as possible
My suggestion for your consideration (please do), is
to change the pricing and release cycle of the delphi
to this scheme:
- Release the delphi in 2 years cycle. The release
will mainly for update delphi IDE feature, new
language feature, new component featuer, etc for
everything that is new compare to previous
- Force your customer to use maintenance plan, give
them the reason why should they buy maintenance plan.
Within 2 years of release cycle, you made the
improvement, support for new device, updated component
available only for customer with maintenance plan. Bug
fixing will always be available for all user
- You still can use the current pricing scheme (the
recharge program). Or if you can, give more ISV price
friendly
Thanks if you really consider my suggestion.
Comment by Iwan CS
[http://iwancs.wordpress.com]
on March 7, 09:54
RAD Studio Recharge Program
We are on SA so the new recharge program is no option
for me. We decided to go SA with the pseudo update from
XE3 to XE4 (for 50 €) because I wasn't willing to pay
for the upgrade AND for SA before. The lower upgrade
price sweetened the deal. If it would have been a
subscription I'd have done it earlier. I think a lot
people would follow me. Just make your next update a
subscription. Same price as the regular update, but
yearly recurring. Done. No more costs than before for
us but you catch us for the next years to come.
This recharge program just seems over-complicated for
me.
Comment by Steffen Binas
[http://snaptip.com]
on March 10, 14:06
RAD Studio Recharge Program
I am not convinced about your argument that EMB needs
to keep release cycles shorter with the fast moving
landscape in mobile platforms, how about instead of
releasing a completely new version you release an
update that fixes bugs and add whatever new mobile
features that you need to add, do not penalize your
customer just because company A decided to change their
UI look and feel. This is what updates are all about,
you only release new versions when you have major
changes to the language, technology, or new IDE
features not enhancements, and in this case component
vendors will not have problem updating their
components, its unfortunate that EMB is still using the
same practices that were used by their predecessor and
that led to their downfall
Comment by Retired Delphi Programmer on March 12, 20:17
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Dear retired developers, this cannot be done:
1. There are accounting implications in releasing an update with new
features, and not just bug fixes. In general, you need a subscription or
maintenance to receive new features.
2. If we make any fix that requires an interface change (a change in the
interface portion of a unit), even adding a new method or a default
parameter, this breaks DCU compatibility of any third party component
that uses the unit. Interface compatibility and new features together are
close to impossible to achieve.
-Marco
Comment by Marco Cantu
[http://www.marcocantu.com]
on March 12, 21:57
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Marco, breaking DCU compatibility is not a problem i
think, as long as it is well announce and well
documented. Like retired developers said, just release
a fixed or minor update to support new os small update
features or devices.
Release it like the hot fix release. Small update but
not too long to wait.
Don't release new feature at all, no enhancement
either, just bug fixed and small update to support
rapid and randomly updated mobile OS and devices
You can still sell new major mobile os version support
or new mobile device support within each release
version. This will eventually increase sales the whole
year not just when the new version release. Or you can
have this freely for your maintenance subscription
user
This will greatly welcome by third party and all
Delphi developer. Developer will be prefer to choose
the maintenance support to receive this special
update.
Comment by Iwan CS
[http://iwancs.wordpress.com]
on March 20, 11:56
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Dear Marco,
great news.
Seems that EMB starts to listen to their loyal customers.
Only unclear what means upgrade every year, and how many major
releases will appear during a year.
At the moment it looks like 2 releases per year is normal and maybe 3
will be soon ?
Also the question what features really will justify a major release.
I really want to follow and support EMB in development and releasing
new features, but I hope that EMB doesn'T overdue this in future.
I have in mind that many IDE around are for free now, having even some
advantages over RadStudio.
Rollo
Comment by Rollo on April 15, 13:49
RAD Studio Recharge Program
The recharge is available after a new version is released. How long
after the immediate release is this good for? A week? A month?
Until the next version is released? If I have XE5, how long after XE6
is released can I wait to Recharge ?
Comment by Eduardo Salgado on April 18, 22:14
RAD Studio Recharge Program
Rollo,
the current plan ti for 2 releases a year, this might change in the future,
but the recharge idea somehow remains (upgrade price divided by
number of planned releases, minus a small discount)
Eduardo,
the recharge to a given version is available after the release of a new
product. At the moment, there is no specific time limit, but the following
release. As we release XE7, for example, recharging to XE6 won't be
available any more. That is, you can recharge only the previous version to
the currently shipping one.
Comment by Marco Cantu
[http://www.marcocantu.com]
on April 19, 13:26
It makes no sense to utilize the recharge plan in the long run (1 year).
It makes no sense to utilize the recharge plan in the
long run (1 year).
The price of Recharge to XE6 from XE5 is about the same
price as support and maintenance. However, at the
current update rate of 2x per year that would mean you
have to recharge 2x but if you had the support and
maintenance then you have nothing more to pay. So, the
cost of the recharge for the year is about twice as much
as the maintenance and support cost.
It makes no sense to utilize the recharge plan in the
long run (1 year).
Comment by Bill on April 22, 16:12
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