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May 22, 2007

Codegear Betas and Roamaps, May 2007

CodeGear has a public beta and is promising the Delphi roadmap, looks like things are indeed changing.

CodeGear has a public beta. Yes, you have to sign an NDA, but the process is simple and direct. The public beta is for a new product, can you guess which? Yes, it's the new Ruby IDE. By the way, I first spotted the link on Mike Pence blog. This is quite a change ("showing some progressive thinking", as Mike puts it). I'm not sure I remember such a public beta, and apparently with some time still to go, in the past. Is my memory short or is this really new? [Update: I figured out this might not have been a public link, so I've removed it until I find out more...]

On the Delphi side, this new CEO Jim Douglas has blogged about the roadmaps issue. I'm quoting (emphasis mine):

We will begin posting road maps for each of our major product lines in early June (2007). Delphi will be the first road map published...

Hurray, hurray. Now, he claims the the revenue recognition issue is real, and provides a link to a nice 342 pages document that does mention road maps of software product explicitly (see for example page 149 or page 298 and following pages). However, as Jim states, this is a vendor issue that should not become a burden on the customers. So it seems we'll get the road maps and they'll have an extra mess in their accounting... but to all that thought the SOX/revenue recognition issue was an excuse, well that document is quite clear (from the little I could understand, of course).

Now, of course, as soon as we have a public road map people will start complain about its content... but that's fully understandable, as you cannot make each and every Delphi programmers happy. There are still too many!





 

6 Comments

Codegear Betas and Roamaps, May 2007 

Hey Marco! Thanks for the news and summary. I thought
I would make one suggested correction. Change "There
are still too many!" to "There are so many!" I don't
think we can ever have too many Delphi programmers. :)
Comment by Kyle A. Miller on May 22, 21:29

Codegear Betas and Roamaps, May 2007 

 To quote you:
"Now, of course, as soon as we have a public road map
people will start complain about its content... but
that's fully understandable, as you cannot make each
and every Delphi programmers happy. There are still
too many!"
Just a correction, if you please - that last "There
are still too many!" shouldn't be there, it should
read something like "be glad for the complaints, but
even with them, there still are NOT enough Delphi
Programmers!" or words to that effect...
Comment by Fred Weller on May 23, 00:00

Codegear Betas and Roamaps, May 2007 

Thanks for the page references.

However, neither those pages nor a search for the term
"roadmap" throws up anything that explains the
professed difficulties that CodeGear have complained of.

I couldn't find ANY example or discussion (involving
roadmaps) that related to a company that sells
individual licenses and which charges separately for
upgrades for those licenses to subsequent versions.

I found discussions of issues that might relate to SA,
but SA we were told is a non-issue.  Hmmmm.

If anyone has found references that do actually
explain CodeGear's recent reluctance to publish, I for
one would be interested.

But in the meantime, I can't wait to see what the
roadmap actually contains.

I'm hoping to see 64-bit in there somewhere.  And soon.

:)
Comment by Jolyon Smith on May 23, 04:13

Codegear Betas and Roamaps, May 2007 

I think the train has moved from a complete 
standstill (or "a dead point", if you prefer) .
Comment by ua.Skywalker [http://www.subtlesoft.com] on May 23, 11:16

Codegear Betas and Roamaps, May 2007 

About the Ruby beta, I'm now seen it mentioned in a
few sites, but I saw an internal message asking not to
link to it, so I'm standing by that request.

Regarding the "too many Delphi programmers" that was
written on purpose. Naysayers argue there are no
Delphi programmers left. I strongly disagree, although
there are fewer than in the past. In any case, there
are "too many" to have a road map that's perfect for
each and very one. Of course, there will never be "too
many Delphi programmers", always too few!

Joylon, I guess you are reading a different document
from the one I've been reading. As I saw it stated
very clearly that road maps affect revenue
recognition, even if you sell licences and even if
people are going to pay for upgrades (which are not
full licenses!).

Finally, Bauer gives a hint of the road map content:
"VCL/Unicode, .NET 2-3.5, Win64 and other stuff."
Comment by Marco Cantù [http://www.marcocantu.com] on May 23, 12:00

Codegear Betas and Roamaps, May 2007 

Roamaps == Roadmaps ;-)

The link to Ruby IDE beta is now on Steve Trefethen's
blog:

http://www.stevetrefethen.com/blog/RubyIDEPublicBetaTestAvailableFromCodeGear.aspx

- Roddy

Comment by on May 23, 16:02


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